Should Abortion Be Legal?

Imthefallena7x says

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abortion is murder! you might be killing the one that has the cure for AIDS or for cancer! the one that might actually save your life one day! give the child up for adoption so they can have a family adopt them and love them for who you wouldnt love them for! let a couple complete their family! and especially let that innocent baby live!

Yaotamashii08 says

Re: Should Abortion Be Legal? - Anti-Abortion / Pro-life Short Film (Third Born)

Screened-off in the belly of their mothers, three unborn babies give an 
account of their time within the confines of the womb. Starting from the point of 
conception, they chart their development, voicing delight at the discoveries that come with each new week. However, as the thirteenth week approaches the excitement for one soon vanishes. A voice formally brimming with an expectation of life out in the real world, is silenced when it meets a murderous fate, one that will ensure it never leaves the womb alive.

Covakid says

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Stephenbeadles says

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Even if a mother is raped this tragedy does not give her the right to murder an innocent child. Every abortion stops a real heartbeat and measurable brainwaves. This women does not deserve to be punished for anything but what about the child? The are thousands of parents wanting to adopt a child of their own.

Felicellena says

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To the person who wrote that if the mother gives birth to the baby conceived through a rape. The person believes that the mother would be punished. I respect your perspective, and when focusing on the mother's point of view, you are correct. I have looked at pictures of aborted fetuses, most as young as only a few weeks. The major organs especially the heart and brain are formed and functioning. To make an informed decision, the mother must look at a sonogram, and pictures of aborted fetuses, and read the stories of men and women who have endured abortions ( Rachael's Vineyard web link).However, the baby would be eliminated for the crime of his father. Is it too much to ask that the mother focus on the baby's chance to live, then give him/her up for adoption?

Covakid says

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Hi Kalinka - I was wondering have you seen an abortion? it's a real and painful punishment for the innocent baby.
http://www.cbrinfo.org/ it is really so sad and hurts my heart.

Megan's story - I love my Baby who was Conceived by Rape
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-fw0rYNNvOQ

Many women I have seen have a hidden punishment after having an abortion and few are "Silent no More"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7BCI2J-MsUg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6tMBoMiKGSY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wg7oERk7FkE

Should abortion be done if the pregnancy results from forcible rape?

The simple, most direct answer is “should we kill an innocent baby for the crime of his father?”

Or, another way of saying it, “We don't punish other criminals by killing their children, do we?

Why in this case?”

Deuterotomy 24:16 agrees. I quote: “The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers. Every man shall be put to death for his own sin.”

In over 50% of assault rape pregnancies, the second victim, the mother, does not want to kill her baby. Rather, she needs our compassion, our love, our continuing help and our encouragement. - Dr. John Willke

Covakid says

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Hello Jaybones

"a very safe procedure" It is not safe for the baby, have you seen an abortion? http://www.cbrinfo.org/

There are many Abortion Mills that are not safe and it's a lie

Here is an example Amarillo, TX - Fr. Frank Pavone, National Director of Priests for Life, today commented upon the forced closing of the Center for Women’s Health in Cleveland. The clinic, which performed late-term abortions, failed to have its state license renewed when officials found numerous health and safety violations at the facility. “The shoddy conditions and practices in those facilities have been the dirty little secret of the abortion industry for years,” Fr. Pavone commented. “But it’s being revealed more and more. The more closely health regulators look at these clinics, the more dangers they will find.”

http://www.priestsforlife.org/pressreleases/06-09-15ohioclinic.htm

There was one in New Jersey that was unsteril in so many ways, and it was though a money making machine, but after years of practice got shut down.

Rjhgins says

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A Jewish perspective on abortion

Starlitshores says

Thinking about having an abortion?

Beyond the legality of abortion. beyond the debates, the accusations, the foul language on both sides of the argument...thousands of women contemplate abortion every day and over 4,000 women choose it.

Women do regret abortion. Silentnomore.com and afterabortion.com show innumerable accounts from women that regret their abortions. Many had no idea what abortion really meant. No one was there to say, "Here let me show you the ultrasound of your baby with a heart beat and fingers and toes. Let me help you."

I run a crisis pregnancy website: myspace.com/starlitshores

Here are just a couple of notes I have received from girls and women who have made the painful choice of abortion (these stories are used with permission. The names have been changed to protect privacy):

Yesterday I recieved this message from a beautiful girl. Many blessings to her for sharing her story and allowing me to post it so that it may inspire many to rethink abortion. May her baby Joshua rest in the palm of God's hand and may she find hope, love, and forgiveness.



I had an abortion yesterday...

I asked to see the ultrasound before it happened,
because I have no health insurance,
so I hadn't been to a doctor,
and hadn't had an ultrasound before.

I dont think I will ever get over this.
I have been pro-life for as long as I can remember,
but I thought it would be easier to send my baby's soul back to God to wait until I could afford to support them.

I feel so alone,
and after seeing the baby, MY baby, on the screen,
and then feeling him be sucked from my body,
all I could do was cry "NO, NO, NO........" over and over again while it happened...

It's been about twelve hours...
and I cant stop crying.

I want my baby back, I want MYYY BABY back...........

and because I couldn't ever face placing my newborn child into someone else's arms...
I'll never get to hold my baby,
or see my baby grow...

I've been playing "Run" by Snow Patrol all day...

It was the biggest mistake I've ever made...
I cant go back...

Abortion is wrong...

I saw my little baby move it's little head, and arm,
I will never ever ever forget that image...

I'm so scared...
I want to die,
My baby is gone...........
~Christina


i had an abortion...

i was 110% sure i was gonna have the baby and then realized i was too young nd the dad didnt want it and cut out of my life nd i didnt want to live from pay check to pay check nd raise my child nd have to hear wheres my daddy nd have to say he didnt want you...i know what thats like...

but i did it for my baby nd not me thats what i was thinking then nd realized that thats wrong you dont kill someone for their own good...i regret it nd miss my child everyday...nd i thought i was being a good mother for doin what i was doin because i didnt want my child to grow up how i did but now i know i shouldnt have done it but its already to late...

i remember in the 9th grade we we're told to write a paper nd a speech nd my topic was AGAINST ABORTIONS... i will never forget what i did february 2nd 2005...i made a life out of what i thought was love nd i killed it when all along it was my son nd i loved him...

late at night i look down nd touch my stomach nd wishes he was there nd ache because i know what i have done nd i know that i can never make it right...

i hope nd pray i am forgiven for what i have done nd pray that when its the right time GOD will send me my child...if you have read all of this i would like to thank you for your time...nd i hope you understand why i was so upset...if you need to you can tell my story to help someone maybe a girl like myself.
~Shannon

The abortion took place on May 31, 2002...the worst day of my life...I want others to hear my story because I am soooo sick of people saying that women are not hurt by abortion...

To answer the question: How has abortion affected you?


To many people, this question would be simple to answer. For me, it is complex and hard, not just for the fact that it brings up so many emotions, but because abortion caused a tidal wave of events in my life. Instead of listing off the ways that it has affected me, I find this as an opportunity to share my story, which I think has more depth than a list.

After leaving my parent's house at 17 because I didn't want to follow their rules, I found out that I was pregnant. My boyfriend had taken me to Planned Parenthood because he happened to notice that I hadn't had my period in a couple of months. I had never been so scared when the nurse came in and told me that I was pregnant. I went and got my boyfriend, Kile, from the waiting room and brought him in. As soon as I sat on his lap and started crying, he knew. I struggled with the words, but finally got them out, "I'm pregnant." The very first thing that came out of Kile's mouth was that I was having an abortion. I was in shock and so when the nurse explained the process of a judicial bypass and the different abortion clinics, I just nodded. I pretended for a couple of days that none of it was true but was brought back to reality when Kile handed me the phone and said that 'they' needed to talk to me. 'They' ended up being an attorney's office that Planned Parenthood had given us the number to, and who would help with the Judicial bypass, which was going to be needed because I was underage and I never thought that I would be able to tell my parents about my pregnancy, let alone ask their permission for an abortion.

After 4 days of thinking about being pregnant, I decided that I wanted to keep my baby…but Kile had different plans for me. He grabbed me by the shoulders and yelled: "You're having an abortion, Kristen!!! I refuse to help you out in any way and you won't have anywhere to go because you're not living with me! I do not want a kid!!" The next day, he took me to see the attorney, and not even a week later I was in front of the judge. He granted me the judicial bypass and Kile made the appointment for the abortion that coming Saturday in Saginaw.

May 31st was a rainy, overcast, chilly day. To this day I remember what I was wearing, what the building looked like inside and out, and even how the chairs were set up in the waiting area. After I signed in, I sat in the chair staring at the wall, holding my belly, trying to talk myself into running out of the building…but that thought was interrupted by the nurse saying she was ready for me. They did blood work, then an ultrasound (which they wouldn't let me see), gave me a valium, and had me and another older woman go into a room where the "counseling" took place. WHAT A JOKE!!! The counseling was just prepping us for how the procedure was and how to take care of ourselves for the few days after. They put all the women in a room and one by one called us out to have the procedure done, and as I waited, I listened to the other women talk…it was one ladies 7th abortion…another's 3rd. It surprised me how nonchalantly they talked about such a huge thing. I heard screaming, then silence, and then my name…it was my turn…The nurse had me take my pants and underwear off and my feet in the stirrups. She told me to look straight up at the ceiling and not to the right. The Dr. came in, spread my legs, and started. I screamed and kept trying to put my legs together, but he said that if I didn't stop, he wasn't going to be able to finish it. I reached out for the nurses hand, but she wouldn't hold it. I have never felt so much pain in my life and thought that the noise was almost unbearable. When he was done, I looked over…there it was…a jar with my baby in it, and that's when it hit me…that's my baby in that jar and they're just going to throw it away like it's garbage??!!!

I went to the recovery room and watched as a couple of the girls were crying. I told myself to keep my composure. The minute that I walked out of the clinic and into Kile's car, I fell apart. How could I have just done that!!???? The only support that Kile gave me was some vicodin and then told me to sleep. The next couple of years were filled with self hate…self mutilation, drinking, drugs and one suicide attempt…anything to get my mind off of the abortion.

I know that I will never be the same, but by the grace of God, I found healing. Rachel's Vineyard changed my life! I still do think that a part of me died that day, but another part of me was born at Rachel's Vineyard. I know that my son, Kristopher Daniel, is in Christ's arms, waiting to meet me. I have learned how to use this for the good, but still want people to know that abortion doesn't turn back time…it stops it…it doesn't end your problem…it starts it…and it is never for the better, but only for the worse. So from now on, I will be SILENT NO MORE
~Krysten

Here is another emotional testimony I have received from a woman who has been scarred by abortion. If you are considering an abortion or know someone who is consider this story before you make that fateful choice.

I was 16 when I had my first child. My son was born at 24 weeks. He is 10 now. It was very traumatic at the time but he was a miracle. Afterwards, I wanted to get my tubes tied but no-one would do it for me. When I was 24 I got pregnant while I was on birth control and didn't know I was pregnant. I kept taking it until about two months later when I got sick and had a test done.

When I found out I was devastated. I was told that the birth control I was taking could have caused allot of damage. I was stupid, I chose abortion. I told the father and he wasn't happy, but he supported my decision. I don't know how I went through with it. I did it with support. Afterwards I was traumatized.

All I could think about was: what if I had chose life? I didn't even look at the ultrasound! I hate myself. So...all I can think about is how my life would have been with the child. What it would have looked like. It's too hard to talk about.
So, I chose to give my life to God. I didn't have sex for a year. Then I met my husband Justin. We were married and soon after I was pregnant again. I was still afraid, but I chose life, of course. It was a normal pregnancy. I'd never known how that felt. After having Kaleb, my second son, I had more regret than ever about the abortion.

I still struggle to sleep at night. I still wonder. More than anything, I wish I had known you, my baby. I had no idea, I didn't do any research. Now all I want is to try to stop anyone else from doing it. I am mentally traumatized, and emotionally scarred forever. I realize now that I made the greatest mistake anyone could ever make. I'm glad I have my husband and my son, but I'll never know what could have been.

Sometimes I think I'm no better than a monster, but I love children, my children, and all children. I would never hurt them and I wish I could go back in time. Though I know I'm a good person, what I did haunts me every day and night. To hear someone like you say that God still loves me, and that my child is with Him really touches me. I know I need to move on and heal, I just don't know how. I wonder if I'll still be crying 40 years from now...that ache that won't go away.
~Julia

Please, if you have been through an abortion, visit the websites I mentioned above. They may be able to help with the healing process. Peace and love always.

Starlitshores says

Why I'm Pro-life

At 19 years old my mother chose to give birth to me instead of having an abortion as many suggested. They suggested this so that she could start a life free of a physically and verbally abusive relationship, avoid being a single parent, go to college, have a career and later get remarried and have children with a man she loved. Though life was not easy for a while (whose life is?) she choose to let me continue living.
Now I am 20, older than she was when she had me. I have graduated as valedictorian, am a history and creative writing major on a full college scholarship, and am getting married next summer. My life is worth living!..despite what many told my mother. And so are the lives of thousands of unborn babies scheduled to die today, no matter their means of conception or their abilities.

My mother is remarried and has just graduated from college (she went back to school to be a teacher). Maybe some will say that this is the extreme case and all women will not eventually be able to fulfill their dreams like she did, but I am here and alive to say that it is possible.

But my personal story is not the only reason that I am so involved in the abortion issue...in fact when I was in my early years of high school I was very pro-choice. I knew that I could never have an abortion myself…but who was I to tell others what to do?

But soon after my freshman year in high school I had some wonderful teachers who showed me a video on the realities of abortion...since then for the past 7 years I have done a TON of research on the issue….I've read pro-choice literature such as Moments on Maple Ave, Planned Parenthood's endless bound of literature, etc. Pro-life literature and A LOT of fetal development information…and what I've learned makes me realize, not only the reality and sanctity of every human life in the womb, but of the horrible violence and murder of a baby that is abortion.

I've realized that when one accepts that life can be killed because it's inconvenient or "unworthy", there's too many people, or whatever road you choose to go down to validate it—you're accepting the fact that all life isn't as sacred as you held it before.
Therefore, the elite themselves have convinced the public we're just a bunch of animals that have to be culled off in the same way when there's too many of us. Then we start to accept it. When people accepted the killing of children, babies, people...that was the start of it—Dehumanization."


I am a history major and whenever my fellow majors and I learn about a horrible event in history such as the holocaust or slavery people always say things like, "Oh, I would have stood up against that!" "I would have been an abolitionist" or "I would never have condoned the murder of millions in Europe!" But what I want to say to them is "Don't you care about the 50 million babies slaughtered since 1973 in this country?! I would also like to think I would have stood up for the helpless throughout history and that is what I am trying to do in the present.

The little human beings in the womb have no voice….no one is telling their mothers, "look let me show you a photo of what your baby looks like now.." or "Here let me give you an ultrasound so you may see your baby move" "Or let me help you in your 'choice' to show you what you are doing, your baby's heart has already started beating 18 days after conception." I want to be that voice…a voice of truth to the reality of life so that mothers may not make the horrible choice of killing their unborn because they think it is just a bunch of meaningless cells or they don't have any other options.

One of my favorite quotes is "Whoever saves one life saves the world entire"~The Talmud. I truly believe that. If by making all these videos, volunteering time and money to pro-life causes, writing about the unborn, and public speaking in defense of pre-born babies, I can save one life…it would all be worth it. If I can save one woman from the agony of abortion and one beating heart from being torn apart…what greater thing could I achieve in my life?

Starlitshores says

Regarding "saving" children by aborting them/ Mercy Killing

Regarding saving children from abuse, neglect, disease, a handicap etc. by taking their life by abortion-------

By saying that one is saving children from tough family situations, and those who may be born with drug addictions or HIV or a handicap, you are also saying that these children are less human or less deserving of life than other quote normal babies.

Before we try to save those babies by killing them, maybe we should think of the beauty of their life, of the love of their friends, and their future impact on the world. Are the children with the above conditions who live outside of the womb, who are newborns, toddlers, teens, etc less worthy to live because their lives seem much harder than our own. How many of us can really say they should not be alive?

A tough family situation, a handicap, having HIV or a pre-natal addiction to drugs does not doom a person's life...Are we willing to tell all those people who have been born quote abnormal that they don't deserve to live or that their life is not as worthy or meaningful as our own?

That it would have been better that they hadn't been born? I believe those people would disagree. If only we all could look at other human beings no matter their race, health, sex, ability, etc. and say, You are a human being. I acknowledge that you are alive and that you have the same right to live as I have. Though I may not understand you, I respect you as a fellow human on this planet trying to overcome adversity just as I am, trying to find happiness just as I am, crying and laughing just as I am, and above all else and most importantly you are alive just as I am alive.

Starlitshores says

Abortion, the reality (with quotes from abortionists)

Here is a grapic video of the reality of abortion. The only way one can truly understand abortion is to see abortion.

This video is medically accurate. By examining a fetal delopment text one can see that the babies (most aborted babies are over 7 weeks old) shown in this video are the ages reported.

Even abortionists admit that abortion is the taking away of life. (clinicquotes.com)

"When you do a D & C most of the tissue is removed by the Olden forceps or ring clamp and you actually get gross parts of the fetus out. So you can see a miniature person so to speak, and even now I occasionally feel a little peculiar about it because as a physician I'm trained to conserve life and here I am destroying life." Dr. Benjamin Kalish, abortionist



It's a central question in the abortion debate- does abortion take a human life? Some abortion providers give surprising answers to this question.



"I have the utmost respect for life; I appreciate that life starts early in the womb, but also believe that I’m ending it for good reasons.... So yes, I end life, but even when it’s hard, it’s for a good reason." (1)

Boston Abortion Doctor



"If I see a case...after twenty weeks, where it frankly is a child to me, I really agonize over it because the potential is so imminently there...On the other hand, I have another position, which I think is superior in the hierarchy of questions, and that is "who owns this child?" It's got to be the mother." (2)

The late Dr. James MacMahon, who performed D&X (also known as Partial Birth) abortions



"I dare say any thinking sensitive individual can't not realize that he is ending life or potential life." (3)

Abortionist Dr. Charles Bender



"A lot of people say they're killing their baby. You get a lot of that. Some people afterwards get very upset and say 'I killed my baby.' Or even before, they say 'My circumstances are such that I can't keep it, but I'm killing my baby.' They wouldn't rather have the baby, and give it up for adoption either. If you go into that with them they will say that they could never do that...and yet they still consider it killing the baby...well, they are killing a baby. I mean, they are killing something that would develop into maturity..." (4)

Clinic Worker Dora Greenwald



"When you do a D & C most of the tissue is removed by the Olden forceps or ring clamp and you actually get gross parts of the fetus out. So you can see a miniature person so to speak, and even now I occasionally feel a little peculiar about it because as a physician I'm trained to conserve life and here I am destroying life." (5)

Dr. Benjamin Kalish, abortionist



"In the beginning I was mixed up because I was taught by the Hippocratic Oath not to take a life." (6)

Abortionist Michael Christie



"It [abortion] goes against all things which are natural. It's a termination of a life, however you look at it." (7)

Abortionist Robert Harris


"[The author] said "Is this a fair way of expressing what you have just said, Doctor? You tell the mother "because your baby is defective, you have the right to kill it or not to kill it. If you choose to kill it, I will do the killing." "Of course," he [the abortionist] said. "There is no other way to say it and be honest."

"It [abortion] is a form of killing. You're ending a life."
Abortion Advocate and President of the National Coalition of Abortion Providers, Ron Fitzsimmons

"No one, neither the patient receiving the abortion, nor the person doing the abortion, is ever, at any time, unaware that they are ending a life..." Abortion provider William F Harrison, MD

“We know that it is killing, but the states permit killing under certain circumstances.” Dr. Neville Sender, founder of Metropolitan Medical Service, an abortion clinic in Milwaukee, Wisconsin

"And then to see, to be with somebody while they're having the injection when they're twenty or twenty-four weeks, and you see the baby moving around, kicking around, as this needle goes into the stomach, you know."
Clinic worker Susan Lindstrom, M.S.W.

Starlitshores says

Definition of Human life

The definition of human life is truly the core of the entire abortion issue. The question of when does life begin has, in fact, never been decided official by the court of law. Because the court of 1973 could not come to a conclusion on this issue they decided to leave this determination up to the mother and the doctor. Since 1973, however, much more medical information about the fetus and embryo has been discovered and I would argue that if the court truly looked into the reality of human life…it would come to realize that human life can only begin at conception. Here, is why:

Let us begin with how many may define the beginning of life.

One definition is that birth is the beginning of human life. But is the action of giving birth truly the creation of life? Does something magical happen at this moment? No. Some say that God puts the soul into a baby the moment he or she is born. But I would ask, "Where does this wisdom you argue as fact come from? What proof are you using? What about the fact that newborn babies recognize the voice of their mothers and fathers, can learn in the womb, and are comforted by positions, sounds, and feelings that resemble life in the womb once they are born? The moment before birth the child is the same being as the moment after.


Other people define life or personhood as beginning when the baby would be able to survive outside of the womb. But I would argue this age of which many call "the age of viability," changes often with the improvement of technology. Babies have been known to survive outside the womb as early as 5 months gestation, so what about 4 and a half months or even 3 and a half. No matter the age, the child is the same being with the same DNA, just younger.


Also how can we say that a baby's dependency on the mother dictates his or her personhood while a new born is also completely dependant, unable to survive on his or her own? Thus by this definition a human would not be a person until after infancy and probably after childhood, when he is more "viable" for life independent from others.


So if we reject that being viable is what makes a child alive does life begin when an unborn baby looks like a baby or acts like a baby? What about the child shown in this video at 12 week? Or the 8 week baby? The toes and hands and eyes are clearly distinguishable. Do these look like babies? How can you look at a little 6 to 7 week being and say, "You are a nothing but a meaningless blob of cells?"


As seen in the ultrasound of a 10 week baby:

the child moves almost constantly. According to a study by the University hospital of Groningen in the Netherlands, unborn babies are never still for more than 13 minutes at a time during the 8 to 19 week stage. They move arms and legs, suck, swallow, jump, and even have the hiccups beginning in the later weeks of the first trimester. Therefore with what wisdom will we draw this line of what is a living baby while the baby does so much in the womb?


Some define life as a heart beat. In this video babies as early as 6-7 weeks are shown with beating heart in ultrasound.


The embryo's heart begins to beat at 18 to 21 days after conception, before a woman even knows she is pregnant.


So is this a safe or wise line to draw?-The heart beat? Well what about the second before the heart beats? What about the minute hour or day before? The child's substance is the still present with unique human DNA separate from the mother and the father. At the moment of conception the baby's sex, hair color, appearance-- every biological part and process of the baby has been set.

A human being has been created.

Even abortionists accept this:

One doctor quotes, "I have the utmost respect for life; I appreciate that life starts early in the womb, but also believe that I’m ending it for good reasons.... So yes, I end life, but even when it’s hard, it’s for a good reason"(Cheryl Alkon "Confessions of an Abortion Doctor" Boston Magazine December 2004)

Covakid says

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"Prayerfully Pro-choice"

I remember being out at the abortion mill one day and somebody was holding a sign that said “Prayerfully Pro-choice.” It is not possible, if they were praying to the same God that you and I believe in, that they could ever have come to such a conclusion. So one needs to ask, “Who are they serving?” Jesus said, “You cannot serve two masters.” Anyone who claims to be even Christian, let alone Catholic, and be pro-abortion at the same time is a hypocrite and a liar. You cannot be Catholic or even Christian and call yourself pro-abortion; it is not possible. God is the Author of life. One cannot say that they believe in God, Who is Life itself, and then choose death; it is not a possibility; it is not an option. It does not matter what they want to call themselves, the fact of the matter is that they have given themselves over to the devil and they have chosen evil over good; they have chosen injustice over righteousness; they have chosen death over life; they have chosen the curse over the blessing; they have chosen Satan over God. - Quote Fr. Robert Altier

www.desertvoice.excerptsofinri.com

Covakid says

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My previous Movie Upload failed -

"Prayerfully Pro-choice"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JYykmxt8DhE

Angelasmith says

The Truth about Abortion (WARNING: graphic abortion photos)

My video is graphic and only for mature individuals. I am anti-abortion. I wish to help the Center for Bio-Ethical Reform (CBR), and I feel my video will help the cause. I am very pleased with what CBR is working toward, and they have my full support. www.abortionNO.com

I am not looking for a debate or cruel comments. I only want to show you my video. If you have questions, CBR will be happy to answer them. Visit them online. Keep an open mind when watching my video. The tears I've cried from deeply researching abortion over the past several years of my life are nothing compared to the pain abortion has caused worldwide. Please open up your heart and mind to see abortion for what it really is. Thank you.

For Facebook members, visit the group.
I am a soldier in the war against abortion.

I have heard several comments since posting my video on various sites. A few have stated that "a very small percentage of abortions are late term". This is true. The percentage looks small; however, the number does not.

According to Wikipedia in 2003, 4.2% of abortions were from 16 to 20 weeks, and 1.4% were at or after 21 weeks.

In 1997, the Guttmacher Institute estimated the number of abortions in the U.S. past 24 weeks to be 0.08%, which is approximately 1,032 per year.

Which means, at least 1,032 viable babies, fetuses, whatever you want to call them, are being killed each year. Is that "nothing", like I've heard? How can anyone overlook their pain? 0.08% may look small and sound good when defending abortion, but remember, that is still 1,032 viable lives.

When a newborn is killed by his or her mother, the news covers it from top to bottom. One life taken away is too many. Why should abortion be any different?

Zoisite888 says

Abortion should be legal. It is really a decision for the mother to make. The decision is very personal with many factors that cannot be judged by another. It could be perhaps a guided deision under supervision and with counselling.

Covakid says

Re: Re: Should Abortion Be Legal?

Does a woman have the right to choose abortion?

It’s an effective question, to be sure. But your first response could well be, “Well, what is her choice?”

When a woman is pregnant, she’s going to have a baby. I’m a physician, and I’ve never yet examined a woman who was only a little bit pregnant. This just happens to be a progressive, nine-month procedure. So what is her choice?

Her only choice is, how is the baby coming out...alive or dead; in many pieces, or whole?

And so her choice is a choice to kill...for life or death. It’s my hope and prayer that she’d made a choice for life. And we can help her by loving both mother and baby. I’d like you to think about that. -- Dr. John Willke

http://www.lifejewels.excerptsofinri.com/life-jewels-vol-1.html#23

http://www.lifejewels.excerptsofinri.com/audio/life_jewels/vol_1/23-right-to-choose.wma